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Virtual pet? I want to start my own kind of...virtual pet thingy...Sort of like neopets i guess... but with better type "pets" i was hoping to posibly make some money off of it, and i'm no artist. So i was wondering how i could draw pets with the same quality of the others like.. neopets or something. I need either a computer program, or a place where i can get drawing lessons for FREE. thanks! I'm not getting one, I'm drawing one, making a site for kids, then they pay me to draw them. DUHH!!!

What is the best virtual pet site besides neopets? I love having virtual pets, but I'm in an office, so the web filter blocks everything. So there is Digi-Petz. But nobody is ever online. So please tell me if they're are any other good virtual pet sites. Thanks!

What is the best site for virtual pet snakes? I love snakes and i really want a virtual pet one.

What is a good virtual pet game for the nintendo ds other than nintendogs? I really would like to find a good virtual pet game, but can only think of nintendogs and really kinda want to stray away from dogs because I already own nintendogs.

What is the best virtual pet game for a 15 yr old? My daughter loves virtual pet games and she plays one now, but I fear it is not safe. Any Suggestions?

What is a website that i can have my own virtual pet? What is a website that i can have a virtual pet besides neopets. I want to interact with it feed it take it places and all that cool stuff like i would with a real pet? Help Me!!!!!!!

What are some good virtual pet sites out there? I want to know about some good virtual pet websites that are free, and I already know about, neopets and club penguine, so I am looking for something different , whichever site I like best gets best answer.

Where is a good stie to get a Virtual pet? My friend and I have been looking on the internet all day to try to find a 3D virtual pet and we just arent having any luck --- can someone help?

Does anyone know how to make a virtual pet website? I want to own a virtual pet website. Kind of like neopets. I used to know of a place that set them up for people but I cant find it anymore. Does anyone know a place like that or how I could make a site myself?

What are some online free virtual pet grooming sites? What are some online free virtual pet grooming sites? Like where you can trim a virtual pet and brush and bathe it. All that for free

what online virtual pet games are there where you can move around the pet? What online virtual pet games are there where you can move around the pet?

Do you know of any good virtual pet websites? i am looking for a virtual pet websites(perferebly a horse website) that you can create an account and play and you dont have to go on every day. please help me!!

Can anyone tell me what the website for the new littlest pet shop virtual pets? I would like to know what the website for virtual pets from littlest pet shop. Easy 2 points, and if I pick your answer easy 10 points for being right. Thanks alot, I appreciate it a bunch!!!

I want to place a virtual pet on my website? I would like to place a virtual pet on my website http://www.crazybroz.co.nr I have searched for some sites that would give such pets but i was not satisfied with them. Most of these sites do not allow us to embed these pets on our website.........does anyone know about some site that would let me embed a virtual pet on my website?

How can i get a virtual pet online? i need a virtual dog or cat that really life like to a real pet. do you know any site like that? besides neopets

How do I create a virtual Pet? My anime club and I want to create a virtual pet as a fun project. We were wondering what programs would we need? What kind of programming skills would be needed? It doesn't matter if our virtual pet is of simple design we infact want it's graphics to be similar to that of the orignal digimon and tamagotchi. Anyu tips help and advice would be appricated.

What type of coding can I make a virtual pet sim? What type of coding can I make a breedable virtual pet site? I already have a website (Pretolux.com), i just need to know what types of coding are able to use to make this.

Is there a online page where you could have a virtual pet? I just bored and want to have a virtual pet where i can play and feed it and just like clean up for him

Does anyone know any good virtual pet games? There are these virtual pet games that the pet walks around on your desk top and you take care of it. Does anyone know any good websites that have them?

Where can I find a virtual pet game for Mac? I'm looking for a free virtual pet game that can run on OS X 10.4. I've seen Flappie, the Chi pet and the tiger widget, as well as the rock... I'm looking for anything else.

Is there any virtual pet website where I can have a duck? I want a duck but i cant have 1 so any virtual pet website where i can have a pet duck?

What are good online simulation or virtual pet games? Does anybody know any good websites where you can raise virtual pets or control a character (simulation games)?

Is there any site where i can get a free virtual pet onto my phone? I have a really bad phone and its hard to find a lot of games that are compatable. Does anyone know where i can get a virtual pet for my phone (t-mobile)?

Does anyone know where Nat and Alex Wolf got their virtual pet? I love virtual pets but i cant seem to find a really fun one. If you know any other kool virtual pets sites tell me. BUT NO NEOPETS! So post your answers and thank you.

The best virtual pet game on the internet? My niece Ava has just discovered a world of virtual fish. Now, she wants more virtual pets. Does anyone know of anything that's free, and realistic? She doesn't like Neopets and things that have little monsters, she wants something like a Nintendogs online. It's hard to explain but could you help? Any animal will do, like a dog, cat, horse, or others. Thanks!

does any one know an virtual pet websites that are free? i love virtual pet websites and i need some more to go on so if you know any please tell me! thanks everyone!! =]

Is there a guild which would tell me the coding to make a virtual pet website? Is there a guild which would tell me the coding to make a virtual pet website? Please HELP!

Any virtual pet or people games that are really fun? I want a virtual pet game thats really fun and you can maybye you can like walk around in it, and chat it can eather be a virtual pet game or a virtual people game but i dont want it to be these sites --> CLUBPENGUIN, BARBIEGIRLS, XIVIO,RUNESCAPE,SECONDLIFE,or WEE MEE i hope you can answer my question

Is there any virtual pet sites aside from neopets? do you know any other virtual pet sites that are better than neopets? Because my cousin loves kid sites. Correction: "ARE there any virtual pet sites aside from neopets?" The site should have a free registration, i don't like sites like webkinz where you need to buy a stuff toy to register.

Can someone here help me find a virtual pet? I wanna pet a virtual Hamster, has technology got any answer for my need ?=)(something like a TAMAGOCHI for my computer maybe???)

I want to buy a new generation virtual pet (a kind of virtual pet)over the internet? my father doesnt want to buy anything over the internet exept if its from amazon(he says they might steel from credit card)....the virtual pet is not on amazon. how do i convince him to buy it from a new website?

How do make a virtual pet, like the ones that hatch and grow once you post them on you web page? Those pets that they post up and have a code where you can put in html on your webpage. They hatch then grow, I want to know how to make them. Not making a pet site, just those growing creatures. Could you give me the link to a web that explains it or give me the exact instructions?

What is the best, completly free, virtual pet websit? If there is a total free, unique website with virtual pet sites on there, I'm on it!

How to make a virtual pet site? Okay so i need to know what cheap hosting sites i can make it on. What codes i need to use and what is PHP so i can make my virtual pet website. Thanks

Free Virtual Pet Site Hosting For My Own Site? I am interested in having my own virtual pet/pokemon site similar to The Pokemon Crater or Neopets, however, Im having a hard time finding a host for this. I would prefer free, or a low cost. I know cheap/free means more advertisements, but I'm running low on cash.

Would anyone like to sign up and play on a Virtual Pet site? The site is called Marapets and it's the 2nd largest behind Neopets. The reason I ask is because you get special items for signing people up. I only receive these items if they sign up using the following link: www.marapets.com/refer.php?id=buck2772 It is totally free and a lot of fun. If you want to help me out just use the above link and create your own virtual pet. Thanks to everyone that can help!

Were can you find a free, online, virtual pet game that you can breed pets with? I need an online virtual Pet game that you can breed pets with!

What are some sites where you can adopt a virtual pet, name them, etc.? Is there anything similar to the computer game, Petz? If not, what sites do you know of with virtual pets?

I want to have a virtual pet on the net, but I want ot actually be able to play with it not like on Neopets? Please help me find a fun virtual pet site

What are some good virtual pet sites? I need some good virtual pet sites, and if they require a download, it has o be for Mac OSX. Thanks! (And not stuff like neopets!)

What are some "3D" Online Virtual Pet Sites Similar To Nintendogs? Ive been looking around for answers and no one seems to have my kinda question. I really wanna find a free online "3D" virtual pet games, something like nintendogs, but not neopets

what are some good virtual pet websites for kids? I want a website that is virtual that I can chat on and that is pets or people. either way is fine.

Do you know of any good virtual pet sites? I need a good pet website to visit over the summer. Thanks! Okay #1 I am a kid please do not post rude comments like that. #2 I don't like neopets it's kinda boring to me. This is really uncalled for people quit being rude I'm only a 12 year old girl. Quit calling me a loser you are very inconsiderate.

I need to find a free, fun, virtual pet site? Does anybody know of a good virtual pet site? It needs to be free. And not neopets or any like neopets. My friends and I are trying to find a good one that we can play games on and dress up the pet. Any help? Thanks!

What is a good Virtual Model World other than gosupermodel.com and other than virtual pet sites? I like to play gosupermodel.com and it is WAY fun but I was wondering if there is any other model virtual worlds. I don't want a virtual pet world either so... any suggestions.

what is the best virtual pet ever that is a hendheld??? I dont want it on a pc or a gameboy i am looking for like a tamagatchi like virtual pet. I want it to be very interactive fun to play with and not easy to keep alive ( just something that could keep an adult entertained.

Do you know of any Virtual pet sites? I'm looking for virtual pet sites besides wajas, neopets, marapets, webkinz, Virtual Dog, Furry-paws, or kenopets. Thanks!

What are some online games where you can make a virtual pet or human? Can you tell me some some onlne games that are virtual. I only go on sites where you don't have to download anything and it has to be free.

What is the name of this virtual pet website? The food you could buy for your pet would be like, the legs of another type of pet or something. & it said "the pound & food shop are very close together..hmm strange" or something like that hahaha not very descriptive but i used to play it all the time, & i don't remember what it is called.

Any good online simulation or virtual pet games for children? Please, this is for a child, simulation or virtual pets. Thanks. None from www.dressupgames.com, thanks!

How do you create a virtual pet website? How do you create a virtual pet website? How do you encode the world and make it interactive, like the rooms you can actually move around in and stuff like that?

Where can I have a virtual pet online, not including neopets? What's your favorite website for virtual pets?

Can anyone name a free virtual pet website for a little girl? i am 11 years old and i need help finding a virtual pet website to play on. does anyone know what??

What is the best virtual pet website? I want to get a virtual pet for my 6 year old son. What is the best and simplist virtual pet website.

Where is the best place to get a good virtual pet besides neopets webkiz of marapets? i want a 3D Pet program that is free neo pets just isnt fun can someone please help??

What are som good virtual pet websites? I want a websites where you can own a pet and take care of it and stuff like that but I can't find one that is good. Can you help me? Thanks! I wnat one that you don't have to have a special animal with a code to play on it. * I mean want. Sorry

where can i make my very own virtual pet website FREE with no downloading or anything!??!? i know of freewebs.com, but its not that good of a site to make a virtual pet site on. i need a really good answer and its gotta be FREE with no downloading or anything and made for creating VIRTUAL PET SITES! i need the BEST answer cause i am always on the computer so i know of alot of sites already. i need an answer that is no different then my question! thanx!!!

what are some websites where you can make your own virtual pet and chat and walk around and do stuff? Hi me and my friend are looking for website where you can make your own virtual animal andwalk aroud, chat, desighn their house and other fun stuff. we only know marapets.

What are some good virtual pet sites exept neopets? I want to know some good ones but people keep saying the same thing, NEOPETS.COM! It just drives me crazy! I also can't get downlodable ones so please have a nice list without downloadables or neopets!

virtual pet? where can i play the game nintendogs online or have a virtual pet online? that is 3d

Does anyone know of a virtual pet site besides Neopets with a pound? I really miss pound surfing, I was addicted to it and now it's gone... :( No, Neopets is not gone, they just took the pound out and it feels like it's been years since I've been able to pound surf.

Virtual Pet? I need help. I want to know where i can download a virtual pet. for ex. dog, cat. That i guess should be a game! Pls anyone!

Virtual Pet? Does anyone know of some? Like neopets Or marapets. I already know of : Neopets,marapets and Misticpets

Looking for moderators admins FOR A NEW VIRTUAL PET Site? Warpetz is a virtual pet site where you can adopt many virtual pets, which will be your virtual pet here on Warpetz. We are an online, virtual pet game and one of the newest, and fastest growing virtual pet sites on the internet. . Continue to raise, train, and care for your virtual pet to be the best. Unlike other virtual pet sites, Warpetz strives to be unique in every aspect. We have over 20 different virtual pets for you to adopt. When you adopt your own virtual pet you have to care for it, treat it well and make sure your virtual pet never gets sick! So if you enjoy raising your own real life pets, then be sure to come on in and create your own virtual pets today!. So, what are you waiting for? Join one of the fastest growing virtual pet sites on the web today! http://www.v-petsite.com/Warpetz/ Register we are looking for moderators admins programmers and more

Virtual pet website artist needed? Hi I need a virtual pet website artist for my virtual pet website. There is no pay.. But they get free account upgrades on the site.. is any one offering??..

Virtual pet website artist -PLZ READ!? Hi sorry about the PLZ READ!. I am a virtual pet website artist longing for a job! I would show you some but I dont have a website to put em on. If you have a good virtual petwebsite I may do art.. you can email me at... leekopets@gmail.com Thanks and plz e-mail me if you have a virtual pet website!

Virtual Pet Website? Hi Is there some kind of virtual pet website that you know of? I would like to join one. I already know about www.gopets.net which I love that website and I already know about neopets and marapets. If you don't know any virtual pet websites just reply with virtual life websites or something. Thanks I appreciate it!

How to start a virtual pet game, advice? I noticed there's a lot of virtual pet games online. Such as furry-paws(dogs) cat-tails(cats) and Sledzz(huskies and other sled/working breeds). But one thing though I haven't seen a virtual pet pigeon game. Except sandbox farm(farm animals/livestock) where you have to get up to a certain level to build a loft and buy pigeons. My idea for a virtual pet pigeon game would be you start of with your own loft and you have to purchase pigeons for it. These can be various breeds and can be purchased from either a petstore or another player. Basically in the game you can own, breed, train and enter your birds in contests but you also need a job to be able to buy supplies, pay for vet visits and entry fees for contests. Birds can be be allowed to breed with another player's pigeon through a stud/breeding request. Is there any kind specific software or website needed to make a virtual pet game? no jokes please...

Virtual pet sites!!!!? I'm starting to get a little tired of neopets and want to go to a new virtual pet site(i aready have a clubpenguin account) but it has to be virtual PETS!!!!Could you help me out?

Pets on the net( virtual pet site?)? What is the best virtual pet site where you can create your own virtual pet for free. (besides Neopets) I wan't to be able to interact with it feed it buy stuff for it andtake it places. Please!

Starting a Virtual Pet Site If you know Php come here? I am currently in the process of setting up a virtual pet website. I want to develop it with a slight twist to other pet sites. However, this will require alot of PHP, Java,HTML and general programming skills which are required to develop the games, scripts and community features. I also desperately require help with graphics as im not that artistic myself. We need some maps, items, pets and other general things made. Im afraid I cannot offer any real payment as it does not have any revenue, but I would of course offer staff status within the community which would become high profile once this virtual community gets going.

Virtual dog/pet for PC.? Anyone know of any online/downloadble virtual pet games. Not neopets please, something very interactive. Tried Puppy Luv also, but the trial dosent last long. Mainly something simular to Nintendogs, but for the PC

virtual pet adoptions with codes to put on myspace? i need one. and i have heard of bunnyherolabs. but what im looking for is kinda odd....i need a virtual squirrel. dont ask. please, just answer. does anyone know where i can adopt a virtual pet for on my myspace other than bunnyherolabs.com???

virtual pet games? what are free virtual pet games? i have already tried sorpiland speilpets neopets mara pets and club penguin any suggestions?

New virtual pet website!? There is this new virtual pet website called leekopets and its FUN! if you get blamed of doing some thing you diden't do you will get a FREE limited addition pet. You can send the leekopets team a e-mail and they will reply with in 1 hour! and you can send them lots of e-mails they love getting e-mails! its better that having to sit in there office all day for 5 hours! here is the web address... www.leekopets.koolhost.com or you can e-mail them at... leekopets@gmail.com Its fun to join there is even games! AND... you will be sent fun e-mails from your pets! ( Thats if you choose to keep your leekopets account e-mail ) Ok bye :)

Online Virtual Pet games!? Know of any virtual pet games online that are free, kind of like howrse except, YOU can run your own 'stable' or something on that order.. And you can train your pets..

online virtual pet games? is there any online virtual pet game that you can like raise them to battle against anothers persons pets? not pokemon but maybe like a dragon type thing?

Virtual Pet Websites? What are some good Virtual Pet Websites Besides Neopets?

Virtual Pet websites? Do you know any good virtual pet websites? And i already know about neopets so not that. If you know any please answer thankyou!!!!

virtual pet mopy the fish.. i dont get it???? http://mopyfish.net/ i downloaded it and its cool and all but i dont understand how to get points to buy him stuf?? has anyone ever used this b4 or know what the point things are?? or how to get a better virtual pet?? anything will be fine thanks :)

virtual pet for myspace? do u no where to get a cute virtual pet for myspace or a cute contact table? thank you!

Virtual Pet Sites? Does anybody know any NEW and upcoming Virtual Pet Sites? Or any old that are other than Zetapets, Neopets, Marapets?

virtual pet sites? apart from neopets, are there any other virtual pet sites on the internet and what are they.

Any other virtual pet games? I'm bored. Any good virtual pet sites?

virtual pet games? does anyone know of any fun virtual pet games?

Virtual Pet Names? I just bought a Webkinz(virtual pet). It is a white fluffy yorkie. do you have any cute names for it? It is a girl!

Virtual Pet Question? I'm looking for a FREE Virtual Pet Site that will allow me to adopt a turkey.

Virtual pet sites...? I'm looking for a good virtual pet website. I don't want to get an account on anything you have to pay for, or something that's basically the same style as neopets. Does anyone know of anything like that?

Virtual Pet Sites? do you know any Virtual Pet Sites? the ones i know are neopets and marapets

virtual pet onilne? not like neopets marapets powerpets zetapets meowpals runscape clubpenguin furry-paws somthing diffrent do you guys know any good virtual pet websites?

Are there any other virtual world or virtual pet sites, such as neopets? I would like a very nice (good graphics, well kept up, etc.), free, virtual reality type site. I've been to neopets, travian, marapets, powerpets, adopt me, virutal pet, jennifer government,and lots of others. I don't want a chat site, although I don't care if it has chat. I also don't want to download anything, pay for it, or get spam/popups from it. I like virutal pet and virtual world sites mostly, such as neopets for pet sites and jennifer government for world/country sites. Any ideas?

Best Virtual Pet Game? Does anyone know of a virtual pet game that's fun to play? Please don't include Nopets or Marapets or Subeta I have played all those. I'm looking for a game that includes real animals. Like the web siate furry-paws. By the way come check it out it's all about dogs. furry-paws.com

is there any virtual pet sites to joine that are G rated? Im, so bord. I got banned from a virtual pet site that is G rated. im looking for G rated virtual pet sites to joine. dont ask how I got banned!

Neopets!!!!!You can create or adopt your own virtual pet. Neopets® is the greatest Virtual Pet Site on the Int Neopets!!!!!You can create or adopt your own virtual pet. Neopets® is the greatest Virtual Pet Site on the Internet. With your help, we have built a community of over 70 million virtual pet owners across the world! Neopets has many things to offer including over 160 games, trading, auctions, greetings, messaging, and magical paintbrushes! Best of all, it's completely FREE! Sign Up!!!! Activate your account with your activation code! http://www.neopets.com/refer.phtml?username=purrfectangel53 To all who went to this site: Activate your account with own your activation code you got sent to your email address. Look your in the inbox.

i want a virtual pet, where can i get one? well yeah i have a myspace and i want to add a virtual pet to my profile. but i want a pet that i can raise, play, and feed. i know of bunnyherolabs but you cant raise those. do you know where i can find a pet which i can actually care for? thnks

Neopets!!!!!You can create or adopt your own virtual pet. Neopets® is the greatest Virtual Pet Site on the Int Neopets!!!!!You can create or adopt your own virtual pet. Neopets® is the greatest Virtual Pet Site on the Internet. With your help, we have built a community of over 70 million virtual pet owners across the world! Neopets has many things to offer including over 160 games, trading, auctions, greetings, messaging, and magical paintbrushes! Best of all, it's completely FREE! Sign Up!!!! Activate your account with your activation code! http://www.neopets.com/refer.phtml?username=purrfectangel53 To all who went to this site: Activate your account with own your activation code you got sent to your email address. Look your in the inbox.

Other Virtual Pet games.? Other Virtual pet games that is funner than neopets that are 3D? On gopets you have to download something and it takes too long (how do I feed my pet)

Virtual NON NEOPETS pet game,dragons if u can...? Ok,I need a virtual pet website,BUT i DO NOT want neopets!!Dragons if can but it dosent HAVE to be,it can be anything but NOT NEOPETS!(Sorry 4 yelling :D)

Will you be my referals to an awesomely fun online virtual pet site that is better than Neopets? ^_^? Rescreatu is a fun and free online pet site. They have many virtual pets for you to adopt. They are one of the newest, and fastest growing virtual pet sites on the internet. Start your journey by finding and hatching a virtual pet egg into your own personal creatu. Rescreatu is by far the best virtual pet site for you! They have many easy games to play, as well as many features. You can also chose a profession like rancher, merchant, or society class. There are four worlds to explore; Relcore, Atquati, Reiflem, and Scria. As you explore the site, you will find eggs. Each of these eggs contains a Creatu. Some are rarer than others, and come in different colors. This game is so much fun (better than Neopets by far!!!) So please join at http://www.rescreatu.com! Please don't forget that JessJessW referred you. :) Here is my referral link: http://www.rescreatu.com?refer=4273 You should be able to log on once a week to feed your pets without having them die. But if they do die, you can resurrect them with a resurrection potion. But the game is so much fun that I log on everyday!

Does anyone no any good virtual pet sites? I really wanna play a virtual club site like habbo or somthing... but i wanna play a good virtual pet game too. If you know any can you please make a list.. thx

I want a good virtual pet sit for my cousin shes 13? okay heres the thing my cousin is over and she wants a pet website where you can control the virtual pet she is in LOVE with pet sites so please help

free virtual desktop pet? Im lookong for a virtual pet (tiger) that can live on my pc

I have a virtual pet website, but how do I make the pets get hungrier over time automatically? Does anyone know the HTML or whatever code for this? Because my virtual pet website, www.freewebs.com/mymoosefriend, all updating is done by me and it gets sooo annoying! How do I make the moose on the Moose Friends page's hunger go down automatically?

How to start a virtual pet game? I noticed there's a lot of virtual pet games online. Such as furry-paws(dogs) cat-tails(cats) and Sledzz(huskies and other sled/working breeds). But one thing though I haven't seen a virtual pet pigeon game. Except sandbox farm(farm animals/livestock) where you have to get up to a certain level to build a loft and buy pigeons. My idea for a virtual pet pigeon game would be you start of with your own loft and you have to purchase pigeons for it. These can be various breeds and can be purchased from either a petstore or another player. Basically in the game you can own, breed, train and enter your birds in contests but you also need a job to be able to buy supplies, pay for vet visits and entry fees for contests. Birds can be be allowed to breed with another player's pigeon through a stud/breeding request. Is there any kind specific software or website needed to make a virtual pet game? no jokes please...

ANY COOL Virtual online games / virtual pet games? I like virtual pet games and my favorite one is have problems. Will someone give me a list of games other then these. millsberry neopets horseland hoofprints mycoke marapets habbohotel Yes it has to be FREE ONLINE games

My Family Virtual Pet Tamagotchi ? hey guys i wasnt too shure where to post this question so i hope this catagory is right anyway was just wondering if anyone knew where i would be able to find a my family virtual pet tamagotchi its the one where you have a mum and dad and a kid i had one when i was young but have now thrown it away , i wanted to get one for my daughter i have tried ebay but they must be to rare i live in australia so there are no outlets that will stock such old tamagotchis only the new versions so if anyone could help me out that would be great thanks for your help

A good virtual pet game online? I love animals but my parents dont like them that much so i look for virtual pet games online i find some but aint the kind i like do you know any?

I need a good virtual pet site. Anyone know any? I want a good virtual pet site that I can go on every day that has alot of people on it every day. I already know Neopets, Subeta, Marapets, Nutrino pets, and some others.

I have a virtual pet? I just started him and he dosen't want to do anything. He's been feed so he's not hungy. He say's no to everything and he's not sick. Its the new generation virtual pet. You can get them a Walgreens. So can someone tell whats going on with him?

What are good virtual pet websites besides neopets??? I know many virtual pet websites so i don't know if u can help me

Is there a virtual pet cat widget for Mac? I want a virtual cat pet for my dashboard but can't find one... :(

Know any good virtual pet websites other than Neopets and Marapets? i rally want to go to a virtual pet site, but not marapets or neopets. THanks!

How do i create a virtual pet site? I already have my domain name. But how do i create a virtual pet set where people can sign up create a pet battle have there pet gain esp...